Dec 7, 2022 13:01
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"But I’m thinking coke instead of horse. Better class of customer.”
“What? Crack whores?”
“No, rich white guys,” Chris says. “Doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs. Those motherfuckers on the golf course, they’re always looking for blow.”
The context is large-scale drug dealing, Arizona, around 1990. I'm puzzled by the "Indian chiefs" here. Does it refer to Indians as in Native American tribe chiefs? Were they so rich as to be counted as potential large clients for cocaine?
Thanks for your insights.
“What? Crack whores?”
“No, rich white guys,” Chris says. “Doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs. Those motherfuckers on the golf course, they’re always looking for blow.”
The context is large-scale drug dealing, Arizona, around 1990. I'm puzzled by the "Indian chiefs" here. Does it refer to Indians as in Native American tribe chiefs? Were they so rich as to be counted as potential large clients for cocaine?
Thanks for your insights.
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| 5 +4 | Anyone and everyone // all and sundry |
Peter Dahm Robertson
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| 4 | Doctors, lawyers, and anyone else loaded (with money) |
Daryo
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| 3 -2 | a group of successful minorities |
Yasutomo Kanazawa
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References
| A reference (a sort of) |
tabor
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| whoever... |
Yvonne Gallagher
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30 mins
Peter Dahm Robertson
Germany
Germany
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&
English
Works in field
Germany
Bilingually native translator (ENDE)
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
, German (Variant: Germany) 
Works in: German to English, English to German, English, and 1 more.
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Anyone and everyone // all and sundry
This is a reference to a children’s song/counting rhyme (see Wikipedia link). It is a very common song/rhyme, as indicated by references in songs (“Goodbye, my Coney Island Baby”) and book/film titles (John le Carre’s “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy”).
Reference:
Note from asker:
| Thank you! I only knew the version without the "Indian chief". |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
14 mins
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| agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: got there before me; was just gathering some references so have made ref. instead with links that work:-)
37 mins
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| agree |
Mark Robertson
1 hr
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| agree |
Lisa Hayden
8 hrs
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| disagree |
Daryo
: they said themselves just before they're not interested in selling to crack whores, so it's not really "all and sundry", their "targeted market segment" is a bit more restricted.
8 hrs
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| agree |
AllegroTrans
: any Tom Dick and Harry...
2 days 1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
-2
15 mins
Yasutomo Kanazawa
Japan
Japan
Works in field
Japan
Scientia est potentia
Native in: Japanese
Works in: English to Japanese, German to Japanese, Italian to Japanese, and 3 more.
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a group of successful minorities
A phrase used to describe a group of successful minorities.
The asian people become Doctors, Lawyers, or Indian Chiefs.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Indian Chief
The asian people become Doctors, Lawyers, or Indian Chiefs.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Indian Chief
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Peter Dahm Robertson
: True in this context, but not generally related to the meaning of the phrase.
12 mins
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| disagree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: no, not here
58 mins
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9 hrs
English term (edited):
Doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs
Doctors, lawyers, and anyone else loaded (with money)
Yes, it is "anyone else", but it's still not really just any "anyone else".
They were plainly interested ONLY in customers with deeper pockets.
They were plainly interested ONLY in customers with deeper pockets.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: why disagree with the right answer above? It's already targeted as "all and sundry" ON THE GOLF COURSE
1 day 14 hrs
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: This merely rewords Peter's answer - unnecessarily
1 day 17 hrs
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| agree |
airmailrpl
: agree with your disagree
1 day 21 hrs
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Reference comments
8 mins
Reference:
A reference (a sort of)
Note from asker:
| Thanks a lot :) |
1 hr
Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Ireland
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&
English
Specializes in field
Ireland
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US, Canadian, Irish)
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whoever...
used in a skipping rope rhyme or games to find the person to be "It"
http://loving2learn.com/Books/BookstoMakeandIllustrate/JumpR...
It's also been used in songs by various artists. The most common probably is
"Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief / Doctor, lawyer, Indian chief/They're all in the money now."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor,_Lawyer,_Indian_Chief
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?
term=Doctors%2C%20Lawyers%2C%20or%20Indian%20Chiefs
Of course "chief" rhymes with "thief" in previous line though that need not be significant at all. These kind of rhymes often have strange rhyming pairs.
There ARE however some rich Indians who managed to use money from casinos to open some golf courses
https://www.golfwrx.com/520820/native-american-golf-excellen...
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Note added at 1 day 23 hrs (2022-12-09 12:53:27 GMT) Post-grading
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yes, some of the First Nations are luckier than others and are quite rich. But nothing really to do with the idiomatic expression!
http://loving2learn.com/Books/BookstoMakeandIllustrate/JumpR...
It's also been used in songs by various artists. The most common probably is
"Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief / Doctor, lawyer, Indian chief/They're all in the money now."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor,_Lawyer,_Indian_Chief
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?
term=Doctors%2C%20Lawyers%2C%20or%20Indian%20Chiefs
Of course "chief" rhymes with "thief" in previous line though that need not be significant at all. These kind of rhymes often have strange rhyming pairs.
There ARE however some rich Indians who managed to use money from casinos to open some golf courses
https://www.golfwrx.com/520820/native-american-golf-excellen...
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Note added at 1 day 23 hrs (2022-12-09 12:53:27 GMT) Post-grading
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yes, some of the First Nations are luckier than others and are quite rich. But nothing really to do with the idiomatic expression!
Note from asker:
| Thank you for the references, Yvonne. The one about the golf courses is very enlightening and great reading, too. |
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