Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

porra de Lotería Primitiva

English translation:

(la) Lotería Primitiva Sweepstakes

Added to glossary by Taña Dalglish
Mar 27, 2020 00:33
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Spanish term

porra de Lotería Primitiva

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Porra de Lotería Primitiva

Do we even do "porras" when it comes to "Lotería Primitiva"? I didn't even know that.
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Aug 28, 2022 07:32: Taña Dalglish Created KOG entry

Discussion

Lester Tattersall Mar 30, 2020:
More context More context would be useful. "Animation Activities"? Mmm. Is this an old people's home, or something like that?
matt robinson Mar 30, 2020:
In my experience (in the centre of Spain, because the use of the term could vary from region to region) a "porra" is an unofficial betting system usually used in bars, shops, etc. They can be open or closed. For example,the shop in the village where I live ran a "porra" on the result of the Christmas lottery. The last two digits of the 1st prize number were written on a large grid, and you could purchase a number for €1. The prize was a Christmas hamper. In bars there are sometimes "porras" on a particular big football match. In this case you can buy a score that has not previously been purchased. The result is a betting system where there is only one winner, and the winner usually takes the entire pot. I haven't seen the word used in any other context.

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(la) Lotería Primitiva Sweepstakes

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/spanish-english...
(= juego) sweep ⧫ sweepstake

"La Lotería Primitiva" (Sweepstakes) is the standard 6/49 Lotto (6 balls and a powerball, if you will). It was created by the Loterias y Apuestas del Estado, the Spanish state-run lottery, one of the oldest in the world. The first draw carried out by the Spanish lottery took place in 1985 (after having been prohibited for over a century). One denomination, “The Primitive”, pays homage to the Spanish Lotto created in 1763 and which was replaced in 1812 by the standard Lotto as we now it today. I would leave "Lotería Primitiva" in Spanish with an explanatory note as I would certainly not use "Primitive Lottery".


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotería_Primitiva_de_España
La Lotería Primitiva es un juego de azar regulado por Loterías y Apuestas del Estado (LAE) que consiste en elegir 6 números diferentes entre 1 y 49, con el objetivo de acertar la Combinación Ganadora en el sorteo correspondiente, formada por 7 bolas, de las cuales 6 se extraen de un bombo con 49 números (modalidad comúnmente conocida como 6/49) y 1 se extrae de otro bombo con 10 bolas (con números que van desde 0 a 9) y correspondiente con el «reintegro». También se extrae una bola extra como número complementario.


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A previous glossary entry: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-spanish/idioms-maxims-... (see discussion).
pool (betting)
Polla (Lat.Am) // Porra (España

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@ Neilmac: I am writing here as unfortunately there is not enough space for additional remarks. I respect your opinions as far as "porra" is concerned and yes, "pool" is probably more the intended meaning. However, as far as "Lotería Primitiva", I would leave this in Spanish and use an explanatory note. That is the point I would like to make. Regards.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/Porra
2 hrs
Thank you.
neutral neilmac : People who pool their cash to place bets are making group bets = betting as a group (=pool). It's not necessarily a sweepstake, which is a specific type lottery,
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Thanks Neil. However, "porra" is not a group bet according to 2 other well-known dictionaries which have been included here. https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-spanish/idioms-maxims-... ("betting pool" may work here!).
agree Z-Translations Translator
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Thanks.
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Lottery group purchase

According to the definition in the DRAE: "Juego en que varias personas apuestan dinero a un resultado, número, etc., de modo que quien acierta se lleva todo el dinero apostado."
Translated here by Google:
"Game in which several people bet money on a result, number, etc., so that whoever hits takes all the money wagered."

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There are several ways to describe this type of group purchase ("porra"). Instead of one person betting, people form a syndicate, club or group /etc,).
"In Skybet Group Betting, users can band together into a team of between two and 50 members.
https://www.bettingexpert.com/academy/types-of-betting/group...

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https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/introducinggroup-...

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Something similar occurs in Spain's national lottery, where instead of buying a single "décimo" ticket, people club together and by a whole ticket (= ten décimos), or even groups of numbered tickets.

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NB: as I see it, a sweepstake is just another type of lottery. However, a "porra" (club, syndicate or group) is a specific type of bet. The people involved might bet on Bonoloto, la Primitiva, Lotería Nacional, Euromillones... and conceivably also dog and horse racing.

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... as well as football, boxing... in fact, you name it, they can probably have a "porra" on it :-)

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I suppose you could call a "porra" a betting syndicate, although for me that expression conjures up an image of big bucks, the Mafia, betting millions, not just a bunch of students or pensioners or neighbours grouping a few cents together to place a bet as a group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate

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By "Lottery group purchase" I mean people forming a group to play the lottery, as described above (Group purchase of lottery tickets).

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NB: "Pooling" is by definition a group activity:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_pool
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