Oct 28, 2010 15:21
13 yrs ago
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German term

abgegrenzt

German to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
From a financial declaration:-

"Wir bestätigen dem Liquidator ... dass nach bestem Wissen sämtliche Schulden der XYZ GmbH in Liquidation getilgt oder abgegrenzt sind."

What exactly does abgegrenzt mean in this context?
Proposed translations (English)
4 other liabilities
5 accrued
4 delimited
4 capped
Change log

Oct 28, 2010 15:36: Ingo Dierkschnieder changed "Term asked" from "abgegrenzt (Schulden)" to "abgegrenzt"

Discussion

Bernhard Sulzer Oct 29, 2010:
possibility I believe it could mean "excluded" - would that make sense elsewhere in your text? - http://www.ashurst.com/doc.aspx?id_Resource=3819
excluded liabilities // I was also thinking "separated" in the sense of liabilities which are not part of the liquidation.
meirs Oct 28, 2010:
deferred ? Maybe

Proposed translations

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other liabilities

The term should be: abgegrenzte Schulden
...which is an accounting term and means 'other liabilities'...which means for example liabilities to suppliers or employees.
EXAMPLE: Supplier didn't bill the company yet but delivery of goods took place.
EXAMPLE: employee worked all year but didn't get his 13th salary

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-28 16:36:04 GMT)
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http://adidas-group.corporate-publications.com/2008/gb/files...

here are some examples of abgegrente Schulden (but not Rückstellungen!)

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-28 16:41:12 GMT)
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other liabilities are also called : accruals


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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I freely admit to being out of depth here - I simply don't have the expertise in this field to judge which term is technically correct, but this information was useful."
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German term (edited): abgegrenzt (Schulden)

delimited

hth

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I think that those are some debts that are clearly defined and it could be known exactly how the debt increases.
Note from asker:
Can you explain what this would mean in a financial context?
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accrued

the debts of the company are defined and quantified so that there is no risk of any nasty surprises

CIMA (Chartered Institute of Management Accountants) Official Terminology
Peer comment(s):

neutral Bernhard Sulzer : clearly defined/quantif. maybe, but why accrued? Do you mean incl. in some way? see def. at http://www.answers.com/topic/accrue "To include an event on the accounting records regardless of whether any cash changed hands." It's not increased or accumulate
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accrued because it relates to known liabilities which can be quanti´fied precisely otherwise it would be'provided for' when uncertainty remains.
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capped

Limited to a specific amount, as agreed by compromise or set by court order.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Kahn Wörterbuch Bank- und Börsenwesen

Kahn gives, for abgrenzen: to delimit, mark off; differentiate; defer, amortise
and for tilgen: to redeem, amorize, repay, retire

So, there is an overlapping, not to say identify, of meanings between the two.
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Reference:

separated

http://www.accaglobal.com/pdfs/technical/tbp02.pdf
An instrument that contains both a basic ownership component and a non-basic ownership element would need to be separated into its equity and financial liability components
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