Glossary entry

Danish term or phrase:

Løjtnant-R

English translation:

Lieutenant, Reserve

Added to glossary by A Word For I (X)
Mar 21, 2010 06:58
14 yrs ago
Danish term

Løjtnant-R

Danish to English Other Military / Defense Certificate of Training
Does anyone know what the "R" in Løjtnant-R might stand for?

Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations (English)
4 Reserve
3 +1 lieutenant of the reserve
Change log

Mar 22, 2010 17:20: A Word For I (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/46647">Tania Therien's</a> old entry - "Løjtnant-R"" to ""Reserve""

Discussion

A Word For I (X) Mar 22, 2010:
You're welcome : ) : )
A Word For I (X) Mar 22, 2010:
The Principal Well, yes, just doing it that way reflects the terminology of the original place and source language. So the principal will have to take on the burden of explaining to whomever what his or her rank is equivalent to in other English-speaking militaries, whether land, sea or air forces. Or police forces, Health Departments, etc. Lots to cover there!
Tania Therien (asker) Mar 22, 2010:
Reserve Thanks Edward. That's enormously helpful.
A Word For I (X) Mar 22, 2010:
Reserve Apparently the structure of the forces is similar with reserve personnel listed on Wiki and classified as Regular Army Reserve and Conscripts Active and Conscripts Reserve - see note below. There is also the Home Guard. That may just be another name for the Regular Army Reserve or it may not. Either way, there is an active duty army and a regular army reserve too. That should be enough to rely on.
Tania Therien (asker) Mar 22, 2010:
Abbreviation Yes, that's a good idea, particularly spelling it out in the way you've suggested "Lieutenant, Reserve." Thanks Edward.
A Word For I (X) Mar 22, 2010:
Abbreviation Note the original has only an abbreviation "-R" in: "Løjtnant-R" Formulating it as Lieutenant (Res.) or a variation - Lieutenant, Res. / Lieutenant, RES / Lieutenant (Res.) / Lieutenant (RES.) / Lieutenant (RES) would cover the bases and allow you to keep the same format as the original no matter the context. Alternatively, spell it out - "Lieutenant, Reserve" and so on. That still keeps to the abbreviated form/acronym of the original as closely as possible.
Tania Therien (asker) Mar 22, 2010:
Reserves vs regular forces Is there a reserve force in Denmark in the same way there is here in Canada? That is, as I understand it at least, one can join the reserves and volunteer for overseas work, but is not obligated to undertake overseas work. Whereas in the regular force overseas engagement is required. Is the term "Reserve" transferable, in short?

Proposed translations

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Reserve

"-R" = Reserve

Løjtnant = Captain or Lieutenant

It depends on the branch of service. The naval service differs from the other branches of the armed forces.

This looks like it is from a C.V./resume or a bio.

For these type of documents/texts in the U.S. at least the protocol is to give the name of the individual followed by the notation of "Lieutenant, U.S. Army/Marine Corps/Air Force Reserve" or "Captain, U.S. Navy/Coast Guard Reserve."

Here's an example but the rank is different:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/uscg.htm

Nida Glick, Lieutenant Commander, USCG Reserve


The Canadian military has close ties to the American military both being in North America, members of NATO etc., but that is by no means the only military relationship or tradition in Canada. The protocol would naturally be different there.

See also:


polisci.msu.edu/downloads/vita/Abramson%20CV%2010.doc

Promoted to Captain, U.S. Army Reserves, 1966



http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jagraha.htm

He was discharged from the Marine Corps Reserve in order to accept a commission in the Marine Corps, September 30, 1963. He attended Officers Candidate School, USMC Schools, Quantico, Virginia, and was commissioned a Second Lieutenant, November 1, 1963


http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/08/us_navy_reserve_capt...

U.S. Navy Reserve Capt. Greg Miller, 48, of Berea, recently walked through the cemetery after meeting with Libyan officials



See this link for Officer rank conversion between land, air and naval forces - Captain = Lieutenant; land and air forces v. naval forces (Navy, Coast Guard):

http://afreserve.com/images/rank/officer_navy_lt_3.png


Comparative table of ranks for the different branches of the U.S. military forces:


http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/~pocock/ranks.htm

O-3 Captain Captain Captain Lieutenant
O-2 1st Lieutenant 1st Lieutenant 1st Lieutenant Lieutenant, Junior Grade
O-1 2nd Lieutenant 2nd Lieutenant 2nd Lieutenant Ensign
Warrant Officers


Wiki on the difference between the Regular Army and Reserve Army Ranks for the U.S.:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_Army_(United_States)


After the demobilization of the Army of the United States in 1946, the United States Army was divided into the Regular Army (RA) and the Army Reserve (USAR). ... Since the Vietnam War officers' permanent rank is their RA rank. Active duty officers can hold an RA commission and rank and may also hold a higher rank with a USAR commission. Reserve officers hold only a USAR commission, but may serve in either the reserve component or on active duty. That is, all non-permanent ranks (including theater rank, temporary rank, battlefield promotions, etc.) are handled through USAR commissions. Those officers without RA commissions do not have a permanent rank.

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Canada probably shows a similar dynamic in play.

And it all depends on your target audience.

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Denmark follows NATO ranks -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO


Navies - Armies - Air Forces

Lieutenant - Captain - Flight Lieutenant
Sub Lieutenant - Lieutenant - Flying Officer


It could be either one of these two instances of "Lieutenant," army or navy.

Your term says "Certificate of Training" so I'd go for "Lieutenant, Reserve" or "Lieutenant, Res."

"Lieutenant, Reserve" / "Lieutenant, Res." is a title format you could see written on a certificate or a c.v., with Reserve / Res. capitalized. Just forgo the branch of service if there is none mentioned. "Lieutenant in the reserves" sounds more like something we would say when we are talking about someone or read in a story written about someone - she was a "Lieutenant in the reserves," or a bio or speech, "X, a Lieutenant in the reserves,..." etc.

I wouldn't rule out that it could even be something different like police, fire department official or maybe even some public health official with a rank since there is no context.

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A historical reference for Sub-Lieutenant (res.) -

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=160168&sta...


Re: Finnish Navy

19 Nov 2009, 19:19
HERLEVI, Heikki Johannes
Born 2.6.1916 in Kokkola

Ranks
Sub-Lieutenant (res.) 1935
Sub-Lieutenant 1937
Lieutenant 1939
Lieutenant-Commander 1942



List of FDNY - Fire Department City of New York - Line of Duty Deaths:

http://nyfd.com/history/line_of_duty6.html

# RONALDSON ALFRED E. FIREMAN RES. 3 3/5/91
# DORE THOMAS R. LIEUTENANT RES. 4 6/4/55
# WILLIAMS THOMAS A. LIEUTENANT RES. 4 2/25/92
# MCLAUGHLIN PETER F. FIREMAN RES. 4 10/8/95

- There are many deaths listed here and a number of them are of the reserve members of the FDNY including some with the rank "LIEUTENANT RES." others have designations differing from RES.


http://www.bestsampleresume.com/find-firefighter-jobs.html

# Reserve Firefighter Job in 911hotjobs [Lyon County, NV] - more details...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Defence

Active personnel 25,000
Reserve personnel 12,000 + 51,000 volunteers in the Home Guard



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Army

Country Denmark
Size Regular Army Active: 10,560

Regular Army Reserve: 4,070

Conscripts Active: 2,150

Conscripts Reserve: 12,000

Army personal in the joint services: 2,300[2]
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks so much for all of these great links and all your help in this. Much appreciated! "
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lieutenant of the reserve

http://www.google.dk/#hl=da&safe=off&rlz=1W1HPEA_da&q="lieut...

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http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Løjtnant


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Lieutenant of the Reserve
Peer comment(s):

agree Brian Young : yes, here (USA) we might say "lieutenant in the reserves"
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