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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

endiablado

English translation:

tricky / demon

Added to glossary by David Ronder
Nov 25, 2009 20:07
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term

endiablado

Spanish to English Other Sports / Fitness / Recreation soccer
Describing a soccer/football match:

... y el **endiablado** puntero...

meaning that he is very good. I would like a word with the same flavor, but can´t think of any.

thank you
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 tricky / demon
4 +2 wicked / cracking
3 +1 menace of a ...
4 shrewd/witty/sly
3 +1 wizard
4 crafty
4 thrilling
3 ipiredns
3 inspired
Change log

Dec 2, 2009 13:07: David Ronder Created KOG entry

Discussion

Ana Cizmich (asker) Nov 27, 2009:
I´m overwhelmed and at the same time grateful for all the suggestions!!! I´m sure I will be using most of these options somewhere in the book to refer to players. I just need to decide which to use in this particular instance. Not an easy task, and that´t why I´m offering different options to the editor before I close the answer. Thank you all !!
David Ronder Nov 27, 2009:
Well yes (to 'Does it matter?') because there are specific collocations for each. You don't have to use them, but they are established patterns in the language. 'Wicked winger' also packs a poetic punch if that's what you're after...and I readily concede that there are some very wicked wingers - crafty demons, tricky, sometimes inspired, often thrilling, even shrewd - and that most of the suggestions here are valid.
Lisa McCarthy Nov 27, 2009:
Wicked wingers Just to set the record straight that my suggestion works as well with 'winger' as it does 'player', I have added a few references with 'WICKED WINGER" :-)
Lisa McCarthy Nov 27, 2009:
Does it matter? ..whether it's a winger, striker, player that we use in our references to show that our suggested adjective can be used to describe somebody who plays in a football game and is particularly adept? 'Puntero' really isn´t the issue here.
ormiston Nov 27, 2009:
poetic punch maybe the alliteration in 'wing wizard' will clinch it then!
David Ronder Nov 27, 2009:
cgowar Actually my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular, I just felt there was a general lack of focus on the fact that we needed an adjective to go with winger specifically. You're absolutely right that Ronaldo is both a winger and a striker, but he is pretty special, if not unique. Most moden wingers are not strictly speaking strikers.
Cecilia Gowar Nov 27, 2009:
David you are probably referring to my reply. I am not saying "puntero" is "striker". It is winger. However, modern day wingers play differently and sometimes are referred to as strikers.
"Real Madrid club said on Tuesday their star striker Cristiano Ronaldo is almost ready to return to full training after passing a test on his injured right ankle."

http://english.cri.cn/8046/2009/11/18/45s530125.htm
David Ronder Nov 27, 2009:
Sorry! I just assumed....
ormiston Nov 27, 2009:
actually I'm a lassie! but thanks for returning the compliment. Let's see what Ana goes for...
David Ronder Nov 27, 2009:
With apologies if you're not that into football... ormiston likes my suggestion 'demon' and I like his, 'wizard'. This prompts a football reflection: I would suggest a wing wizard is archetypically a wee guy, often a Scot, full of guile and trickery and magic, whereas a demon winger is more typical of the modern game - essentially all about pace. Sadly the traditional wing wizard is becoming a thing of the past, though at Spurs we have a demon called Aaron Lennon who's also a bit of a wizard.
David Ronder Nov 26, 2009:
puntero Yes, probably a bit pedantic of me. I was just checking, as not many of the examples related to wingers. I think there are specific winger collocations.
Lisa McCarthy Nov 26, 2009:
puntero Hi David - I don´t think anybody's saying it's otherwise. The poster is looking for the translation of 'endiablado' anyway.
David Ronder Nov 26, 2009:
puntero I just want to clarify that I think we're talking specifically about a winger here - that's the Oxford Spanish definition of 'puntero' (fútbol) for Col and CS. Larousse and DRAE give it as 'delantero que juega/se desempeña en los laterales' - for Argentina and Á. Andes respectively.

Proposed translations

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Selected

tricky / demon

tricky winger is a very strong collocation, though you could also call him a demon winger



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Note added at 8 mins (2009-11-25 20:15:46 GMT)
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50,000+ hits for tricky winger, e.g

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2008/10/20/liverpool-ready-to-m...

and a few hundred for demon:

http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10303~125698,00.h...
Peer comment(s):
agree Silvia Killian Özler : I like demon.
2 hrs
Yes, stronger than tricky - thanks, Silvia
agree Evans (X) : I like demon here too
16 hrs
Thanks, Gilla
agree ormiston : I like 'demon winger' better than my suggestion!
1 day 13 hrs
Well as a Scottish football fan, I have a soft spot for 'wing wizard'. We used to produce them in abundance. Thanks, ormiston!
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+1
5 mins

menace of a ...

devil of a ...
reckless
Peer comment(s):
agree Edward Potter
54 mins
Thank you Edward.
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5 mins

shrewd/witty/sly

Luck.
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8 mins

ipiredns

.
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10 mins

inspired

.
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+1
39 mins

wizard

this might fit the bill, and here's an example in a sporting context
Michael Beauchamp is soccer's wizard of Australia - Sportingo - [ Traduire cette page ]18 Mar 2008 ... There are many players around that could be someone's favorite but there's nothing better than a home grown talent to excite the fans.
www.sportingo.com › Football - En cache - Pages similaires
Peer comment(s):
agree Edward Potter
20 mins
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7 hrs

crafty

I play soccer and I have heard this term
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11 hrs

thrilling

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/11/sports/romario-and-ronaldo...

Romario and Ronaldo: Brazil's Thrilling Strikers

Otra opción, que creo que evoca una imagen similar al original.
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+2
2 hrs

wicked / cracking

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Studs Up Official Forums - Search Results
He's a **wicked player**, and plays very well on the wing as someone that can cut in. 5 goals in 8 matches so far, and he's only going to get better once he ...
www.studs-up.com/forums/search.php?searchid=19431 - Cached
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Hashhash's profile at footytube
You kno he's a **wicked player** don't get me wrong....but the guy plays sooooo damn lazy....its like he doesn't want to break a sweat lol. In Denmark v Sweden ...
www.footytube.com/profile/hashhash - Cached

Official Football Thread - ALL FOOTBALL TALK HERE - Page 174 ...
Plus taggat should have recovered from his ankle op by jan 8th and halls will play well against his old club.. but he's a **wicked player** anyway. ...
ntsc-uk.domino.org/showthread.php?t=23928&page=174 - Cached

www.michaelrobotham.com page 1 From the pitched slate roof of the ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
he's a **wicked player**. Having no eyebrows is a bit of a blow.' 'I hear Beckham gets his plucked.' 'By Posh?' 'Yeah.' It almost raises a smile. ...
www.michaelrobotham.com/suspect_.pdf

The Best of...Duff McKagan NSFW | The Daily Dust | UK News | Good News
23 Oct 2009 ... Isaac, our new drummer, he's a **wicked*+ drummer – he's Matt Cameron's favourite drummer, which says a lot. He also gets our humour. ...
www.thedailydust.co.uk/2009/10/.../the-best-of-duff-mckagan... -

Status: offline, No doubt he's a **wicked player** and I'd definitely like to see him in an Arsenal shirt but he's played in the Russian league for ages,
forum.breakbeat.co.uk › [D&B Music] - Cached - Similar

I'll miss pantomime villain Robbie Savage when he's gone : Pacman ...
17 Mar 2008 ... Love or hate him though, the truth is he's a **cracking** player. About five years ago I went to watch Birmingham City take on Chelsea at ...
betting.betfair.com/.../ill-miss-pantomime-villain-robbie-savage-when-hes-170308.html - Cached
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Sean O'connor - GreenockMorton.org
he's a **cracking player**, cant believe he's only 27. he seems to have been around for years. Go to the top of the page. + Quote Post ...
www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index.php?showtopic... - Cached

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Note added at 1 día19 horas (2009-11-27 15:34:06 GMT)
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EXAMPLES TO DESCRIBE WINGERS IF NECESSARY:

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Calderdale Libraries Online Catalogue - Now with free reservations!
But will ***wicked winger*** Twister Thompson get the better of him? First published in hardback in February 2000. Add to my list. Copy/Holding information ...
libonline.calderdale.gov.uk/.../ipac.jsp?... - Cached
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watford help - Championship Manager
WGL MCGEADY(***WICKED WINGER***, FABULOUS CORNERS) S LINDFIELD(LOAN, BUT IM DESPRATE TO SIGN HIM) S PAVLUCHENKO/ARSHAVIN(ROCKING RUSSIANS CANT MAKE MY MIND UP ON ...
forums.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t... - Cached
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Football Barbie
The Bernabeu faithful were on their feet to welcome the ***wicked winger*** back after two months out. The number nine played without any problems and he almost ...
footballbarbie.footballunited.com/ - Cached
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Jobi Mcanuff rules <Jobirules>
Jobi can beat every deffender no prob hes a ****wicked winger*** NANANANA jobi mcanuff, mcanuff,jobi mcanuff Jobi he's the best hes got skills that makes so maney ...
www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=7158631316
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Ranking: Best Rugby Union Player Ever
5 posts - 3 authors - Last post: 17 Apr
Serge Blanco, 11.13 (=). 12. Best Rugby Union Player Ever Jason Robinson. Wicked ful back, Wicked winger full stop. (gdd081105) ...
www.rankopedia.com/ZID=3/275/Best-Rugby-Union.../1003.htm - Cached
Peer comment(s):
agree patinba : A wicked answer :)
4 mins
Cheers, Pat! :-)
agree Emma Ratcliffe
1 day 19 hrs
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