Jun 4, 2019 15:33
4 yrs ago
French term
France
Native in: English
prestations immatérielles
French to English
Bus/Financial
Finance (general)
balance sheet
Context:
Item in ASSET ACCOUNT
"Etat - impôts sur les bénéfices
TVA déductible sur autres biens & services
TVA déductible sur prestations immatérielles
Crédit de TVA à reporter
Remboursement de TVA demandé"
- "intangible services" ?
Item in ASSET ACCOUNT
"Etat - impôts sur les bénéfices
TVA déductible sur autres biens & services
TVA déductible sur prestations immatérielles
Crédit de TVA à reporter
Remboursement de TVA demandé"
- "intangible services" ?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 -2 | intangibles products |
Francois Boye
|
| 3 -1 | intangible benefits |
Alex Grimaldi
|
| 1 +1 | intangible services |
andres-larsen
|
| 3 -1 | IP - intellectual property and other professional services |
Adrian MM.
|
Proposed translations
-2
2 hrs
Francois Boye
United States
United States
Native in French
Specializes in field
United States
An economic geek with social skills
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
305
Selected
intangibles products
Intangible products—travel, freight forwarding, insurance, repair, consulting, computer software, investment banking, brokerage, education, health care, accounting—can seldom be tried out, inspected, or tested in advance. Prospective buyers are generally forced to depend on surrogates to assess what they’re likely to get.
Source: https://hbr.org/1981/05/marketing-intangible-products-and-pr...
Source: https://hbr.org/1981/05/marketing-intangible-products-and-pr...
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Eliza Hall
: "Products" is broader than "services" (it includes both goods and services).
9 hrs
|
|
What's the point? May I add that a service is intangible by definition?https://www.marketing91.com/intangibility-in-services/
|
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| disagree |
Germaine
: "products" are usually seen as "tangibles".
3 days 1 hr
|
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
-1
1 hr
Alex Grimaldi
France
France
Native in French
France
Life Sciences, PhD | Technologies
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
, Italian (Variant: Standard-Italy)
Works in: English to French, Italian to French, French to English, and 1 more.
intangible benefits
A suggestion that seems to match
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Eliza Hall
: You're in the ballpark here, but services are specific things you can buy; benefits aren't.
10 hrs
|
+1
2 hrs
andres-larsen
Venezuela
Venezuela
Native in English
Venezuela
freelance translator
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, German to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
42
intangible services
cross-border B2C supplies of intangible services of which VAT is deductible
sources:
View PDF - VAT Systems
https://www.vatsystems.eu/print/view/pdf/.../block_5?view......
20 dic. 2018 - However, in the case of B2C supplies of intangible services from the ... charged for such type of services (Article 59 of the 6th VAT Directive). .... VAT Directive 2006/112; .... The Council Implementing Decision (EU) 2019/309 of 18 February ..... The total cross-border digital sales value is not higher than GBP ...
VAT/GST treatment of cross-border services - KPMG LLP
https://assets.kpmg.com/content/.../xx/.../ess-survey-13-nov... -
... issue of how to collect tax on cross-border sales by remote .... understanding the new VAT rules applicable to digital goods .... 4 New Zealand Inland Revenue, GST: Cross-border services, intangibles and .... of supply of services [2013] OJ L284/1 (Council Regulation 1042/2013), art 9a. ..... 41 EU Directive 2006/112/EC, art.
Directive 2006/112/EC - EUR-Lex - europa.eu
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32...
Council Directive 2006/112/EC of 28 November 2006 on the common .... Amended by, 32008L0008, Replacement, Article 59 BIS, 01/01/2015 ..... Amended by, 12012JN05/08, Replacement, Annex X Title, 01/07/2013 ...... Content of invoices .... out only supplies of goods or services in respect of which VAT is not deductible, ...
sources:
View PDF - VAT Systems
https://www.vatsystems.eu/print/view/pdf/.../block_5?view......
20 dic. 2018 - However, in the case of B2C supplies of intangible services from the ... charged for such type of services (Article 59 of the 6th VAT Directive). .... VAT Directive 2006/112; .... The Council Implementing Decision (EU) 2019/309 of 18 February ..... The total cross-border digital sales value is not higher than GBP ...
VAT/GST treatment of cross-border services - KPMG LLP
https://assets.kpmg.com/content/.../xx/.../ess-survey-13-nov... -
... issue of how to collect tax on cross-border sales by remote .... understanding the new VAT rules applicable to digital goods .... 4 New Zealand Inland Revenue, GST: Cross-border services, intangibles and .... of supply of services [2013] OJ L284/1 (Council Regulation 1042/2013), art 9a. ..... 41 EU Directive 2006/112/EC, art.
Directive 2006/112/EC - EUR-Lex - europa.eu
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32...
Council Directive 2006/112/EC of 28 November 2006 on the common .... Amended by, 32008L0008, Replacement, Article 59 BIS, 01/01/2015 ..... Amended by, 12012JN05/08, Replacement, Annex X Title, 01/07/2013 ...... Content of invoices .... out only supplies of goods or services in respect of which VAT is not deductible, ...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Eliza Hall
: Yep. See title of this legal guide to VAT, as well as pp.32, 38, 46 & 49: https://www.dlapiper.com/~/media/files/insights/.../05/globa...
9 hrs
|
| disagree |
Francois Boye
: services are intangible by nature. https://www.marketing91.com/intangibility-in-services/
19 hrs
|
| agree |
Germaine
: "prestations" = services par définition. See discussion.
3 days 2 hrs
|
-1
2 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
81
IP - intellectual property and other professional services
Most services are intangible and non-material, rather than immaterial = irrelevant.
Example sentence:
Régime particulier pour : les cessions et concessions de droits d'auteur, brevets, licences, marques; les *locations de biens meubles* (sauf moyens de transport); pub/licity?; prestations de conseillers, ingénieurs, bureaux d'études; l'expertise compta
Reference:
http://www.linguee.com/french-english/translation/prestations+immatérielles.html
http://www.dcg74.org/tva-taxe-sur-la-valeur-ajoutee/tva-prestations-immaterielles.html
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Eliza Hall
: You've given examples of intangibles (IP) and intangible services, rather than translating the term. Andres-Larsen is right with "intangible services." See: https://www.dlapiper.com/~/media/files/insights/.../05/globa...
8 hrs
|
| neutral |
Germaine
: In context, it’s more than that. See discussion.
3 days 2 hrs
|
Reference comments
1 hr
andres-larsen
Venezuela
Venezuela
Native in English
Venezuela
freelance translator
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, German to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
42
Reference:
prestations de services immatérielles (publicité, conseil, location de biens meubles corporels)
Prestations de services - CCI Haute-Loire
https://www.hauteloire.cci.fr/sites/.../prestations_de_servi...
PRESTATIONS DE SERVICES:
QUELLE TVA APPLIQUER ?
Prestations immatérielles (publicité, conseil, location de biens meubles corporels ...) autres que les services électroniques (art. 59 de la directive 2006/112/CE)
Imposition à la TVA du lieu d'établissement du prestataire.
Pas d'imposition en France si preneur établi hors UE.
Mais, taxation en France si prestataire établi hors UE et service utilisé en France.
https://www.hauteloire.cci.fr/sites/.../prestations_de_servi...
PRESTATIONS DE SERVICES:
QUELLE TVA APPLIQUER ?
Prestations immatérielles (publicité, conseil, location de biens meubles corporels ...) autres que les services électroniques (art. 59 de la directive 2006/112/CE)
Imposition à la TVA du lieu d'établissement du prestataire.
Pas d'imposition en France si preneur établi hors UE.
Mais, taxation en France si prestataire établi hors UE et service utilisé en France.
Discussion
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do?idSectionTA=LEG...
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte...
Intangible products
Intangible products include all goods sold to customers that can't actually be seen, touched, sniffed or otherwise handled by the consumer. Examples of intangible products include insurance, tax services, cell phone service, some computer software and transportation services