Trustable agency?
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Jurgen Vincke
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This smells like a scam Jul 22

Hello Anders,

What this Indian agency is telling you is complete nonsense. POs need to be signed in advance, not at the end of the month.


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Baran Keki
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'Contract' Jul 22

Would you mind telling us how much they're offering to pay after signing a 'contract' with you?
Scam or no scam, if I had your language pair I wouldn't bother working with any clients from Asia (let them think you're a Swedish 'Nazi'). I'd find those boutique agencies operating out of rural Denmark or south of France, which pay upwards of 17 cents per word (most of them don't even use CAT tool grids, or are even aware of the existence of CAT tools). If only I had that effing language pair
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Would you mind telling us how much they're offering to pay after signing a 'contract' with you?
Scam or no scam, if I had your language pair I wouldn't bother working with any clients from Asia (let them think you're a Swedish 'Nazi'). I'd find those boutique agencies operating out of rural Denmark or south of France, which pay upwards of 17 cents per word (most of them don't even use CAT tool grids, or are even aware of the existence of CAT tools). If only I had that effing language pair...
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Anders Kvarnström
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Offer Jul 22

Baran Keki wrote:

Would you mind telling us how much they're offering to pay after signing a 'contract' with you?
Scam or no scam, if I had your language pair I wouldn't bother working with any clients from Asia (let them think you're a Swedish 'Nazi'). I'd find those boutique agencies operating out of rural Denmark or south of France, which pay upwards of 17 cents per word (most of them don't even use CAT tool grids, or are even aware of the existence of CAT tools). If only I had that effing language pair...


The offer is 0.05 per word in EUR, I know this is outrageous, but it's a first job and I am willing to accept it for a short time if everything is legit, just to get myself started.

These agencies you mention sounds interesting. Never heard anyone mention them before, they are on LinkedIn, etc?


 
Anders Kvarnström
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Thanks! Jul 22

Jurgen Vincke wrote:

Hello Anders,

What this Indian agency is telling you is complete nonsense. POs need to be signed in advance, not at the end of the month.


I see! Thank you. I will email them again regarding this.


 
IrinaN
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POs issued 10000 miles away from home are useless anyway Jul 22

A great number of agencies use POs for their accounting and configuration management but many serious clients operate via emails only just as well. In any case, what "Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda" you do with an unpaid Indian PO, except for swearing in both languages, of course?

In theory, it is quite reasonable to have some kind of a documented proof of relationship before forwarding any confidential documents. Again, depends on the country. In the US email is legally binding and admis
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A great number of agencies use POs for their accounting and configuration management but many serious clients operate via emails only just as well. In any case, what "Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda" you do with an unpaid Indian PO, except for swearing in both languages, of course?

In theory, it is quite reasonable to have some kind of a documented proof of relationship before forwarding any confidential documents. Again, depends on the country. In the US email is legally binding and admissible in court. I'm not so sure about India though.

After reading all previous posts - should they ask for a test translation, request a test bank wire first Make no mistake, I am an avid test advocate but under slightly different conditions and for slightly different clients.


Good luck!



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Angie Garbarino
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Wait a moment Jul 22

It certainly could be a scam, but I can say from experience that lately two agencies, serious and punctual in payments, are used to send the Po at the end of the month by grouping the various jobs and then they pay, those are not Indian.

I won't be the one to judge whether this is a scam, I'm just saying that this is an existing practice.


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Thanks! Jul 22

Angie Garbarino wrote:

It certainly could be a scam, but I can say from experience that lately two agencies, serious and punctual in payments, are used to send the Po at the end of the month by grouping the various jobs and then they pay, those are not Indian.

I won't be the one to judge whether this is a scam, I'm just saying that this is an existing practice.


Thank you for your answer!


 
Christopher Schröder
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Not a scam as such Jul 22

Jurgen Vincke wrote:
What this Indian agency is telling you is complete nonsense. POs need to be signed in advance, not at the end of the month.

POs are never signed🤷‍♂️ Some agencies issue them on delivery. They’ve already entered into a contract by asking you to do the work. The PO is mainly for invoicing purposes. That in itself is not a scam.

Anders, you will need to sign an SLA or NDA or equivalent agreement before you do any work for an agency.

I would agree that you should be looking to get work in Europe. 5 cents for Swedish is a joke.


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Matthias Brombach
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Go for it... Jul 22

Anders Kvarnström wrote:

Baran Keki wrote:

I'd find those boutique agencies operating out of rural Denmark or south of France, which pay upwards of 17 cents per word (most of them don't even use CAT tool grids, or are even aware of the existence of CAT tools). If only I had that effing language pair...


These agencies you mention sounds interesting. Never heard anyone mention them before, they are on LinkedIn, etc?


...and spend your first income for one of the numerous seminars or webinars offered here by experienced senior translators, held in a professional surrounding on a tropical island and for a reasonable price, to get empowered for all the traps and struggles this profession may offer for beginners.


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Anders Jul 23

I worked for a while with a British agency that had weekly projects and only issued POs at the end of the month. At first, I had to chase them to get the POs, but that's another story...

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Anders Kvarnström
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NDA Jul 23

Christopher Schröder wrote:

Jurgen Vincke wrote:
What this Indian agency is telling you is complete nonsense. POs need to be signed in advance, not at the end of the month.

POs are never signed🤷‍♂️ Some agencies issue them on delivery. They’ve already entered into a contract by asking you to do the work. The PO is mainly for invoicing purposes. That in itself is not a scam.

Anders, you will need to sign an SLA or NDA or equivalent agreement before you do any work for an agency.

I would agree that you should be looking to get work in Europe. 5 cents for Swedish is a joke.



Yes, they sent me an NDA to sign.


 


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