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le grand récit algérien

English translation: the grand Algerian narrative

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French term or phrase:le grand récit algérien
English translation:the grand Algerian narrative
Entered by: A Zafar

15:36 Apr 23, 2021
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / Algeria
French term or phrase: le grand récit algérien
Hello all,

I'm translating an article about the Hirak movement in Algeria, and am having trouble translating this phrase. I get the general tone, but can't seem to find an English equivalent.

In this section, the author is discussing how various studies have linked Hirak to other moments in Algerian history.

"Certains auteurs expliquent par ailleurs les mobilisations en se tournant vers le grand récit algérien depuis le début de la guerre de libération nationale, en 1954, ainsi que le nationalisme et sa crise , pour se retrouver vraisemblablement devant le résultat d’une longue et lente maturation sociétale qui prend sa source dans les profondeurs de la société."

Many thanks for your suggestions!
A Zafar
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:28
the grand Algerian narrative
Explanation:
My take on it.

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Note added at 11 mins (2021-04-23 15:47:30 GMT)
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its historical and political narrative
Selected response from:

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 05:28
Grading comment
Ah yes, "narrative" is a good word to use. That's helped get my thinking going again! Thanks. Although, I think I will go with something more understated for "grand" as suggested by other users.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4the grand Algerian narrative
Barbara Cochran, MFA
4 +2the larger Algerian story...
Ben Gaia
4great Algerian heritage
Saeed Najmi
3 -1the great History of Algeria
Nathalie Stewart
Summary of reference entries provided
great Algerian narrative
Andrew Paul Kennett

  

Answers


6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
the grand Algerian narrative


Explanation:
My take on it.

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Note added at 11 mins (2021-04-23 15:47:30 GMT)
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its historical and political narrative

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 05:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Ah yes, "narrative" is a good word to use. That's helped get my thinking going again! Thanks. Although, I think I will go with something more understated for "grand" as suggested by other users.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ben Gaia: Sounds good but a bit "flowery", overstated.
13 mins
agree  Andrew Paul Kennett
58 mins
  -> Thank you, Andrew.
agree  mchd
1 hr
  -> Thank you, mchd.
neutral  Steve Robbie: "Algerian grand narrative", perhaps, but only if the insinuation is "metanarrative" // Academic readers of the phrase grand narrative will inevitably think metanarrative when they first see it. Splicing "Algerian" into the middle won't alter that.
1 hr
  -> I think that is a reductionistic way of looking at the phrase I entered, and I don't think it really applies, in this instance./Sorry, but I don't think that it's inevitable that they will. Some of them are smarter than that.
agree  Nicole Acher
6 hrs
  -> Thank you, Nicole.
agree  Thomas Miles: 'narrative' is perfect for 'récit'
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, Thomas.
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
the great History of Algeria


Explanation:
https://primed.tv/yasmina-mohammed-2/?lang=en
the great History of Algeria since independence

https://www.africatouroperators.org/algeria

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293718-d3462008...

https://www.echoroukonline.com/benflis-im-the-true-president...

https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/091214/lyes-s...

http://www.maghrebdesfilms.fr/IMG/pdf/Oranais_Mediapart.pdf

Nathalie Stewart
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Ben Gaia: "Great" does not work here as in English it sounds like there was some huge Empire spreading across the world.//All my comments are completely subjective.:)
7 mins
  -> Completely subjective comment. This is how several sources refer to it, it wasn't my idea personally.
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
the larger Algerian story...


Explanation:
I like "grand narrative" but here is my version in Plain English. The idea is that the full story behind events is part of a "larger" story.

Ben Gaia
New Zealand
Local time: 21:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: "Broader" and "larger" are both good. Wish I could have given points to two answerers!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Conor McAuley: I was going to say broader, decided it was a synonym of larger
37 mins
agree  philgoddard: Narrative is fine, but not grand.
45 mins
neutral  Barbara Cochran, MFA: Never heard of " the larger story" in this context, although I most definitely have read the expression "the larger narrative" when it comes to political and historical texts.
1 hr
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
great Algerian heritage


Explanation:
The heritage or tradition
The present ''hirak'' draws from a long heritage/tradition of nationalism and struggle. As a matter of fact, its maturity is evidence that it finds its roots in that heritage. It was founded by the forefathers and almost ''genetically'' transferred through generations. I guess that's the idea the writer is conveying.


Saeed Najmi
Morocco
Local time: 10:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: great Algerian narrative

Reference information:
Narrative could be recital or history.


    https://fondation-frantzfanon.com/reclaiming-the-narrative-of-the-algerian-revolt-se-reapproprier-le-recit-de-la-revolte-algerienne/
Andrew Paul Kennett
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Marge Hogarty
1 day 8 hrs
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