battes

English translation: reel bats

08:52 Oct 28, 2023

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Mechanics / Mech Engineering / Farm equipment

French term or phrase: battes

Context:
moissonneuse-batteuse XXXX pour son batteur à 8 battes au lieu des 6
Not sure but looks like the rows of fingers that separate the stalks of wheat or corn when cutting.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
TIA Chris.

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English translation:reel bats

Explanation:
Reel bats
These are the metal arms that extend from the reel shaft and rotate to lift the crop.
Fingers
These are smaller metal tines that are attached to the reel bats and help to lift the crop.
https://www.mechanicalpower.net/blog/agriculture/the-essenti...

Les battes : les barres dentées qui sont fixées sur le rabatteur et qui tournent avec lui
Les dents : les pointes ou griffes accompagnant les battes.
https://wikiagri.fr/fiches/lexique-moissonneuse-batteuse/

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Bourth
France
Local time: 04:18

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Summary of answers provided

4 +2

thresher bar

Jennifer Levey

rasp-bars (rasp bars)

Johannes Gleim

4 +1

reel bats

Bourth

Discussion entries: 6

Johannes Gleim

@ Schtroumpf

12:36 Nov 4, 2023

INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ISO 6689
ISO 6689:2021(E)
3.2.1.2 threshing cylinder, threshing drum
rotating assembly, fitted with rasp bars, beater bars or spikes on its periphery and their supports, for threshing the crop, which, in conjunction with an adjacent element, is primarily to promote threshing, where the crop being threshed is contained between rotating and adjacent elements for less than 360°
https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/77763/e01f66a0a0c84dba...

Pourquoi douter de la terminologie ISO et des articles scientifiques ou de Wikipeda ? Normalisé, c'est normalisé. En cas de doute, il faudrait des preuves plus pertinentes.

Schtroumpf

Battre ou râper...

12:32 Oct 29, 2023

Monsieur Gleim, je ne suis pas convaincue par votre argumentation.
Pour l'instant, il me semble que votre "rasp bar" se dit "barre de râpe" en français - ce qui n'est pas le terme recherché. Et des sources d'origine indienne et allemande ne sont pas de nature à soutenir votre idée non plus.

Johannes Gleim

@ Samuël

11:20 Oct 29, 2023

Merci pour réferer la norme ISO 6689. Sur Internet, j'ai trouvé les définitions dans une prévisualisation :

3.2.1.2
threshing cylinder
threshing drum
rotating assembly, fitted with rasp bars, beater bars or spikes on its periphery and their supports, for threshing the crop, which, in conjunction with an adjacent element, is primarily to promote threshing, where the crop being threshed is contained between rotating and adjacent elements for less than 360°
https://cdn.standards.iteh.ai/samples/77763/e01f66a0a0c84dba...

Ce qui confirme ma recherche avec "threshing drum".

"threshing drum" "rasp bar" Environ 5.600 résultats (0,38 secondes)
"threshing drum" "spikes" Environ 3.590 résultats (0,32 secondes)
"threshing drum" "beater bars" Environ 1.430 résultats (0,37 secondes)
"threshing drum" "threshing bar" Environ 352 résultats (0,31 secondes)
"threshing drum" "reel bats" Environ 8 résultats (0,37 secondes)

Je pense que la norme est évident.

Samuël Buysschaert

France

Fwiw

19:06 Oct 28, 2023

En complément, cela pourrait être également utile pour éventuellement d'autres termes problématiques présents dans votre document:

ISO 6689:2021
Equipment for harvesting — Combine harvesters and functional components — Vocabulary
Matériel de récolte — Moissonneuses-batteuses et leurs composants fonctionnels — Vocabulaire
(3.2 Termes relatifs à la moissonneuse-batteuse) - Partie concernée visible sur les aperçus disponibles sur @.

Bashiqa

France

ASKER

@ Emmanuella

09:32 Oct 28, 2023

Yes, that is the item, but in English?

Emmanuella

Italy

09:22 Oct 28, 2023

https://www.prodealcenter.fr/cat/plots-battes-moissonneuse-b...

Answers

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

thresher bar

Explanation:
https://the-co.com/product/294136MH/

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These bars are mounted on a thresher drum, which is in the section of the combine harvester that separates the grain from the stalks.

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 22:18
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 126

Notes to answerer

Asker: Client`s choice reel bats.

5 hrs confidence:

rasp-bars (rasp bars)

Explanation:
"rasp bar" "threshing" Environ 121.000 résultats (0,35 secondes)
"rasp bar" "threshing drum" Environ 5.600 résultats (0,38 secondes)
"threshing bar" "threshing drum" Environ 352 résultats (0,31 secondes)

Une moissonneuse-batteuse est une machine agricole automotrice destinée à la récolte de plantes à graines, principalement les céréales, en une seule opération. Elle permet de réaliser simultanément la moisson et le battage.
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Il en existe trois types : les conventionnelles possèdent des secoueurs (comme le schéma plus bas dans la page), les axiales ont des rotors à la place du batteur et des secoueurs, et les hybrides sont un mélange des deux avec batteur et rotor.
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6 batteur
7 contre-batteur
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moissonneuse-batteuse

The modern combine harvester, or simply combine, is a machine designed to harvest a variety of grain crops. The name derives from its combining four separate harvesting operations—reaping, threshing, gathering, and winnowing—to a single process.
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6) Threshing drum
7) Concave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combine_harvester

The threshing drum and concave are identical to the ones used in the Fortschritt E 512. The threshing drum has a width of 1278 mm and a diameter of 600 mm. It is equipped with 8 rasp bars. It is driven by a belt, that is hydraulically adjustable in length (CVT), in order to adjust the threshing drum speed. The speed is adjustable between 603 and 1600 min−1. The concave has 14 rasp bars, and its distance from the threshing drum can be quickly adjusted in three steps using a lever in the driver's cabin; fine adjusting is possible by turning the concave adjusting nut with a jaw spanner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortschritt_E_514#Threshing_sy...

Number of raspbars (corrugated flat bars) mounted on the periphery of a drum.
The threshing is achieved by rubbing action of plates between cylinder and concave and the impact by the raspbar
https://courseware.cutm.ac.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2.3...

80411998 Rasp bar set right RH for NEW HOLLAND combine harvester, threshing drum
https://www.ersatzteile-landmaschinen.com/en/80411998-rasp-b...

The thresher consists of rasp bar threshing cylinder, oscillating sieves, concave and winnowing and cleaning attachment. The rasp-bar cylinder is made of cast iron rings, sheet metal and toothed racks and is fitted on the main shaft running on two heavy pedal bearings.
https://farmech.dac.gov.in/FarmerGuide/RJ/9R.htm

Four types of contact models between grain and threshing components have been constructed correspondently. Grain damage can be regarded as a function of peripheral velocity and contact pattern of impacting. Grain loss can be regarded as a function of contact pattern of rasp bars.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325624225_Review_of...

The sunflower threshing capacity of a rasp bar drum was higher than peg tooth type, both with open and closed threshing drums.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S15375...

FIG. 1 is a fragmentary side elevation of a rasp-bar type cylinder, shown in operating relation with its concave, provided with resilient ribs, in accordance with my invention;
FIG. 2 is a transverse section through the concave and Patented June 4, 1963 the ribs thereof taken on the line 2-2. in FIG. 1; and
FIG. 3 is a fragmentary perspective of a threshing machine of the rasp-bar cylinder-type shown on a reduced scale with its concave and the mechanism associated therewith.
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Thus, the truncated pyramidal coverings extending above the concave grate sides take the appearance shown in FIG. 1 and fill substantially the entire space 3 between the upper edge of the concave grate and the lower edges of the rasp-bars 4a carried by cylinder 4.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3092115A/en
Figures see https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/drawing?channel=espac...

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 04:18
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Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 59

7 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

reel bats

Bourth
France
Local time: 04:18
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 40

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