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accréditer leur ministère

English translation: give credit to their calling

09:02 Nov 14, 2023
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: accréditer leur ministère
L’idée que ces Missionnaires donnèrent de leur capacité, servit beaucoup à accréditer leur ministère, et à faire estimer la Religion qu’ils prêchaient.
elmahan
English translation:give credit to their calling
Explanation:
"There are saloonkeepers who set their faces against this awful traffic, and refuse to sell their goods to boys. Such men give credit to their calling, but those who fail to "heed this rule are sowing the seed of a whirlwind."
Duluth Evening Herald, October 23, 1907


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Note added at 4 hrs (2023-11-14 13:35:16 GMT)
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Calling / ministry
To my mind (obviously) a religious 'calling' is as near as damn it to 'ministry' as my atheist soul is (from a believer's point of view) to purgatory.

https://sbccalled.com/the-call-to-ministry/

https://www.apuritansmind.com/pastors-study/what-is-a-call-t...

https://careynieuwhof.com/why-its-time-to-rethink-what-it-me...

Le ministère dans le christianisme est le service qu'un croyant ou une croyante accomplit selon un appel particulier de Dieu pour l'Église et la mission.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministère_(christianisme)

"The Church of England defines the ministry of priests as follows:
Priests are called to be servants and shepherds among the people to whom they are sent. With their Bishop and fellow ministers, they are to proclaim the word of the Lord and to watch for the signs of God's new creation. […] Depending on the denomination, the requirements for ministry vary. All denominations require the minister to have a vocation, a sense of calling. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_(Christianity)

"A calling, in the religious sense of the word, is a religious vocation (which comes from the Latin for "call") that may be professional or voluntary and, idiosyncratic to different religions, may come from another person, from a divine messenger, or from within oneself."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_calling
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Bourth
France
Local time: 20:23
Grading comment
Merci beaucoup Monsieur ！！
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3lend credibility to their ministry
philgoddard
4 +3give credit to their calling
Bourth
3show (shew) proof of their ministry
Adrian MM.
4 -3"accredit their ministry"
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0 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
"accredit their ministry"


Explanation:
In this context, "accréditer leur ministère" means to validate or give credibility to their ministry. Examples:
- Their remarkable results helped to accredit their ministry among the local community.
- The positive feedback from people attending their sermons greatly accredited their ministry.
- The support of influential figures helped to accredit their ministry on a broader scale.
This is an AI-generated answer.


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Local time: 14:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  liz askew: no hits for this, also this is AI -generated
45 mins
disagree  Bourth: Blindly believing AI is like blindly believing politicians.
1 hr
neutral  Adrian MM.: it's paradoxical that opponents of AI - artificial intelligence or absolute idiocy use a dearth of AI-generated g/hits as an argument or crutch,
2 hrs
neutral  SafeTex: Proz misuses ChatGTP. Please see my remark in the discussion
23 hrs
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: "accredit" is clearly wrong
2 days 3 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
show (shew) proof of their ministry


Explanation:
’l'idée que ces Missionnaires donnèrent de leur capacité, servit beaucoup à accréditer leur ministère : the idea that Missionaries gave of their time and effort does much to show proof of (lend credence to) their ministry -> preferably small 'm' to avoid a mix-up with a political ministry.

Example sentence(s):
  • Proof is evidence. Provide sufficient evidence to men and demons that you did not send yourself. 3. To justify your abandonment of other pursuits of life. To make full proof of Ministry is to justify the reason why you left your profession to preach the G

    Reference: http://search.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/other/615409-...
    Reference: http://ww.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/lend-cred...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Emmanuella: https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/accréditer#:~:text=− Accrédi...
3 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
lend credibility to their ministry


Explanation:
I hate to say this, but ChatGPT is almost right. I think 'accredit' is the wrong choice of word because it usually implies "give official sanction to", but its explanation is correct.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 10

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Emmanuella
4 mins
agree  Nicole Acher: Ministry is a good choice here, and "lend credibility to" is a better translation than "accredit" in this case
10 hrs
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: yes to "ministry". Not so sure about the rest though certainly better than alternatives
1 day 22 hrs
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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
give credit to their calling


Explanation:
"There are saloonkeepers who set their faces against this awful traffic, and refuse to sell their goods to boys. Such men give credit to their calling, but those who fail to "heed this rule are sowing the seed of a whirlwind."
Duluth Evening Herald, October 23, 1907


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Note added at 4 hrs (2023-11-14 13:35:16 GMT)
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Calling / ministry
To my mind (obviously) a religious 'calling' is as near as damn it to 'ministry' as my atheist soul is (from a believer's point of view) to purgatory.

https://sbccalled.com/the-call-to-ministry/

https://www.apuritansmind.com/pastors-study/what-is-a-call-t...

https://careynieuwhof.com/why-its-time-to-rethink-what-it-me...

Le ministère dans le christianisme est le service qu'un croyant ou une croyante accomplit selon un appel particulier de Dieu pour l'Église et la mission.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministère_(christianisme)

"The Church of England defines the ministry of priests as follows:
Priests are called to be servants and shepherds among the people to whom they are sent. With their Bishop and fellow ministers, they are to proclaim the word of the Lord and to watch for the signs of God's new creation. […] Depending on the denomination, the requirements for ministry vary. All denominations require the minister to have a vocation, a sense of calling. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_(Christianity)

"A calling, in the religious sense of the word, is a religious vocation (which comes from the Latin for "call") that may be professional or voluntary and, idiosyncratic to different religions, may come from another person, from a divine messenger, or from within oneself."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_calling


Bourth
France
Local time: 20:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7
Grading comment
Merci beaucoup Monsieur ！！
Notes to answerer
Asker: merci beaucoup Monsieur !


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew
10 mins
agree  writeaway
3 hrs
neutral  philgoddard: Surely calling is not the same as ministry.//Calling is 'appel', as your examples show. Ministry theoretically means looking after people - though in the case of missionaries it often means making a nuisance of yourself.
3 hrs
  -> See my added comment above.
agree  Rachel Fell
3 hrs
neutral  Emmanuella: L'appel de Dieu ( passivité) Ministère ( exige de prêcher = activité)
4 hrs
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: really don't see how any of this works. "Calling" =vocation. "Ministry" is the activity involved in this vocation
2 days 2 hrs
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