teniente político

English translation: County (AmE) Sheriff (BrE) DL / Deputy Lieutenant

03:04 Feb 6, 2024

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
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Spanish term or phrase: teniente político

And Tenencia Política.
The person and the office.

ECUADOR

By context I would think something like a district attorney or sheriff or deputy mayor?

The document is written by a judge overseeing a case of domestic violence and responding to a request for an order of protection.
The victim directs her statement to "Señora teniente político"
In another area the document concludes: La tenencia política procede a conceder las Medidas Administrativas de Protección Inmediata...

Robin Ragan
United States

English translation:County (AmE) Sheriff (BrE) DL / Deputy Lieutenant

Explanation:
To start the ball rolling. The translation could go different ways Transatlantically - Sheriff is a Scottish magistrate or, previously in England a Wales (E&W), a High Court Bailiff - and Down Under in OZ.

DL - Deputy Lieutenant as a ceremonial title in the UK and, often being a retired military officer, medic or lawyer / Solicitor appointed on a nod as well as on 'merit' would come closer to the Spanish formulation, but doesn't get embroiled in messy domestic violence cases.

The only problem with a High Court Tipstaff is that s/he is not a regional, but a Superior Court Officer, enforcement officer commanded to stop child abductions out of the country etc.

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-> *and the office* : County Sheriffdom + County Deputy Lieutenancy

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Adrian MM.
Austria

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County (AmE) Sheriff (BrE) DL / Deputy Lieutenant

Adrian MM.

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teniente político [parish state representative]

AllegroTrans

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Taña Dalglish

finding in French

liz askew

Discussion entries: 1

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8 hrs confidence:

County (AmE) Sheriff (BrE) DL / Deputy Lieutenant

In the United Kingdom, a deputy lieutenant is a Crown appointment and one of several deputies to the lord-lieutenant of a lieutenancy area: an English ceremonial county, Welsh preserved county, Scottish lieutenancy area, or Northern Irish county borough

Reference: http://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1707217830648/1
Reference: http://www.withersworldwide.com/en-gb/insight/read/who-is-th...

Adrian MM.
Austria
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English
PRO pts in category: 578

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Thanks so much. I had a hard time choosing between everyone's answers.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

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philgoddard: If you'd just said 'sheriff' I might have agreed, but as usual you've muddied the waters with lots of utterly irrelevant stuff about Scotland and high-court tipstaffs

3 hrs

-> Then you, in your diffidence, ought to have posted plain 'sheriff' yourself, though sheriff is still used by the old London High Court school for a senior bailiff. Otherwise, has to be narrowed down 4 General teniente político [m] EC local politician

neutral

AllegroTrans: This is MUCH too localised and the stuff about Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland is totally irrelevant. And do you really think High Court tipstaffs have got anything to do with this?

3 hrs

-> I considered Tipstaff as well as DL / Deputy Lieutenant, the last officer you had been 'remiss' in missing for the 'British Isles'.

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

teniente político [parish state representative]

Explanation:
I think "localization" into US terms such as "sheriff" is misleading
The text is from a completely different legal and admin system and I think retaining the Spanish and providing an explanatory in brackets is the best solution here.

Qué es la tenencia política?
La tenencia política, se localiza en la parroquia rural de un cantón, con la finalidad de representar al ejecutivo y tener un adecuado desarrollo y ejecución de normativa, control y cumplimiento de la legalidad vigente en territorio.

El proceso de toma de decisiones en las Tenencias Políticas del cantón ...
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¿Qué hace el teniente politico de la parroquia?
Activar, planificar y ejecutar actividades planificadas sobre seguridad con la Tenencia Política y Policia Nacional de acuerdo a las metas anuales establecidas contribuyendo a la prevención y organización de cada sector fomentando la seguridad participativa.

tenencia politica de la parroquia joseguango bajo

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:05
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 1656

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

philgoddard: I think 'parish state' is confusing, and the translation has to include some sort of reference to law enforcement.

2 hrs

-> the person also has other roles

neutral

Andrew Bramhall: When I read AMM's answer, a Kenny Rogers song started coursing through my brain;

3 days 1 hr

-> Please do not use your comments on my answers to make oblique comments on other people's answers

disagree

Adrian MM.: You missed Deputy Lieutenant. Sheriff is ambiguous for mag in Scotland & also owing to the *residual* London High Court bailiff connotations you 'forgot'. PS AB & I are under a mutual ProZ ban and bar on commenting on each other's 'pearls of wisdom'.

5 days

-> Localisation can be VERY misleading and is only occasionally good translation practice

Reference comments

37 mins

Reference: Refs.

Reference information:
16 General teniente político [m] EC magistrate
17 General teniente político [m] EC mayor
https://tureng.com/en/spanish-english/teniente

* EC = Ecuador

https://tureng.com/en/spanish-english/tenencia política
Category Spanish English
1 General tenencia política [f] EC politician's office

I assume that "Mayor's Office" could be used for "politician's office", if "teniente polñitico" is "Mayor?"

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Oops ... teniente político

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Based on the fact that the document is written by a judge overseeing a case of domestic violence and responding to a request for an order of protection, it would appear that "teniente político" would more than likely be the "magistrate."

Otavalan Women, Ethnicity, and Globalization [1 ed ... - dokumen.pub

dokumen.pub
https://dokumen.pub/otavalan-women-ethnicity-and-globalizati...
... ***teniente político's [local magistrate's] office)*** until 1995; and public transportation that, although offering frequent and widespread service, was ...

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Category Spanish English
1 General teniente político [m] EC magistrate
2 General teniente político [m] EC mayor
3 General teniente político [m] EC first civil authority
4 General teniente político [m] EC local politician
https://tureng.com/en/spanish-english/teniente político

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 735

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thank you so much!

6 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: finding in French

Reference information:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish/general-conversation-gree...

la "Junta parroquial" (Conseil paroissial) élue par les citoyens et dirigée par un président ;
le "Teniente Político" (adjoint politique), en principe choisi par le gouverneur, choix qui est parfois proposé ou ratifié par les habitants de la paroisse.

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here:

https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/eac_assets/1/1/Gloss...
comité político m.;.; camarilla política f.; consejo político m. • caucus election ... deputy mayor: teniente de alcalde m./f. • description of state ballot.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 288

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