as redlines to

14:12 Dec 12, 2023
English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
English term or phrase: as redlines to
Claimant unreasonably demanded that the PHBs be set out as redlines to the Skeletons and Claimant disregarded the Parties' agreement by filing a PHB of 34 pages instead of 30 pages.
Sylvie André
France
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1comme modifications interlinéaires en rouge au premier rang en ordre des couleurs
Adrian MM.
Summary of reference entries provided
voir
liz askew

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as redlines to (Skeleton Arguments in arb.)
comme modifications interlinéaires en rouge au premier rang en ordre des couleurs


Explanation:
pour modifications aux conclusions en justice, en voie d'arbitrage et/ou récapitulatives.

PHB : post-hearing biref if this is an arbitration / arbitral case - post a separate question at leisure - pronounced lee-zure in AmE. Otherwise, congrats to anyone else who picked up on that point!

As 'we all / all of us know' from pleadings, if you please / statements of case in E&W / England & Wales, there is a hierarchy of colours for amendements starting with red: '2.4 The order of colours to be used for successive amendments is: (1) red, (2) green, (3) violet and (4) yellow.'

'Modifications' are only half the story in the ProZ weblink already alluded to and conclusions récapitulatives as skeletons would IMO have fitted as an anser to the second weblinked ProZ question,.

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PHB : *post-hearing brief*.

Example sentence(s):
  • Guide d'utilisation Effets de correction des couleurs
  • Post-hearing briefs may be used to draw the arbitral tribunal's attention to relevant facts that have emerged at the hearing and place them in the context of the parties' claims and defences.

    Reference: http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules...
    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/law-patents-trad...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
1 hr

neutral  liz askew: https://www.docjuris.com/post/how-to-redline-documents-and-b... are there no hits for this in French?
3 hrs
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Reference comments


2 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: voir

Reference information:
https://jackwshepherd.medium.com/the-top-10-ways-lawyers-use...

I spend a good portion of my time acting as a “translator” between lawyers and everybody else. One of the most difficult things to explain is the “redline”. Not least because it is known by several other names: a comparison, blackline, ChangePro, DeltaView, compare, diff, tracks etc.

The easy bit is to explain what a redline does: it shows the changes between one document and another document. It generally does so by striking out in red the things that have been deleted, and underlining in blue the things that have been added. Like this:


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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/other/38865-sui...

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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-french/tech-engineerin...

Termine o frase Inglese: redlining
Traduzione in Francese: annotation

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https://fr.wikihow.com/surligner-en-rouge-un-document-Word

Le surlignage en rouge est une forme de modification qui consiste à utiliser de l'encre rouge pour indiquer la suppression ou l'ajout de texte dans Microsoft Word. Cela est possible en utilisant la fonction intégrée Suivi des modifications ou en modifiant manuellement la couleur de la police et en utilisant la fonction Barré. Le suivi des modifications est idéal pour modifier et annoter de longs documents tandis que le surlignage manuel est plus adapté aux documents et papiers plus courts qui sont échangés entre différentes versions de Word.

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Suivi des modifications dans un document
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15 Jul 2018 — Utiliser le suivi des modifications de Writer (souvent appelé lignes rouges ou marques de révision) pour afficher où vous avez ajouté ou ...

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https://www.docjuris.com/post/redlining-contracts

Redline Meaning: Definitions, History, and Tips to Avoid Big Mistakes

Redlining contracts as we know it today in the legal profession refers to the act of performing edits to a document and/or comparing mark ups. Redlining also can refer to a form of document comparison (usually contracts) that is generally done by computers. Is there a better way?

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 9

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans: Not so sure it would relate to track changes per se, but certainly "red lining" in legal pleadings
2 hrs
  -> I have no idea how Adrian MM reached his answer!
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